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If I could avoid it I would never use my 90 Elmarit to attempt a flattering portrait in good light. I fall back on my old and imperfect (but still surprisingly good stopped down) 85mm 1.9 Canon.
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I recently came across a elmarit 90 2.8 with the series number 1918522 it has a 39 mm filter screw
and a 15 mm black "leatther" trim close to the camera. I looks lok the glas has no or very little coating - Could anyone please tell me a production year of the lens ?? and what the lack of coating will affect the use of the lens
Thanks
Ruben
and a 15 mm black "leatther" trim close to the camera. I looks lok the glas has no or very little coating - Could anyone please tell me a production year of the lens ?? and what the lack of coating will affect the use of the lens
Thanks
Ruben
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Elmarit 90 mm f/2.8 1959 - 1974.
According to Sartorius "Identifying Leica lenses", the serialnumber is from 1962.
With coating you get a better transmission of light through the glass and it minimizes reflections ( the "ghost"images) when a lightsource is shining on the glass of the lens.
These refelctions have as a result dull, lower contrast, pictures. But if the lightsource is shining from behind, of course there is (hardly) a difference between coated or not-coated glasses (of a same lens).
Modern coatings consist of more layers, given even better protections against unwanted reflections. Besides this, I have been told that modern coating is as hard as diamant, less danger of scratches when cleaning the glass.
This lens could be used with Visoflex.
According to Sartorius "Identifying Leica lenses", the serialnumber is from 1962.
With coating you get a better transmission of light through the glass and it minimizes reflections ( the "ghost"images) when a lightsource is shining on the glass of the lens.
These refelctions have as a result dull, lower contrast, pictures. But if the lightsource is shining from behind, of course there is (hardly) a difference between coated or not-coated glasses (of a same lens).
Modern coatings consist of more layers, given even better protections against unwanted reflections. Besides this, I have been told that modern coating is as hard as diamant, less danger of scratches when cleaning the glass.
This lens could be used with Visoflex.
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thanks Kian Giap Tan
I will keep out of the direct sun light
regards
Ruben
I will keep out of the direct sun light
regards
Ruben
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Modern coatings "hard as diamond"? This has got to be hype! Although some coatings now are more durable, they cannot be that hard! You still want to clean carefully.
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Diamond might be an exaggeration. However, having attended the Leica School and visited the Wetzlar factory in the past, I can tell you they state,(and demonstrate),that you can clean the lens with your necktie without causing damage. This demonstration is carried out numerous times over the 3 days of the Leica School!
Colin
ps. that doesn't mean I recommend it, but it does attest to the strength and resliency of the coatings.
Colin
ps. that doesn't mean I recommend it, but it does attest to the strength and resliency of the coatings.
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My camera dealer was a sales representative for Leica for several years. He tells the story that he used a ball point pen and would scribble on the front glass of Leica lenses while he was talking with customers..which he then DEMONSTRATED to me.
He then wipes the ink off with a cleaning cloth and asks you to look at the scratches..and naturally there are none.
They must have incredible coatings..but he's NOT going to do it on any of MY lenses...
Jeff in Colorado
He then wipes the ink off with a cleaning cloth and asks you to look at the scratches..and naturally there are none.
They must have incredible coatings..but he's NOT going to do it on any of MY lenses...
Jeff in Colorado
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> > Posted by Jeff Roberts on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 5:21 am: > > My camera dealer was a sales representative for Leica for > several > years. He tells the story that he used a ball point pen and > would ================================================================= I think it would be safe to say that coating technology has changed greatly since 1962. I think older lenses should be treated with appropriate care. And I would also remind you that optics are made in batches to reduce the cost of manufacture. Some of the lens elements could be several years old before they are assembled and assigned a serial number.
I am considering a 90mm lens for a Leica M. From what I read in the previous posts, and also looking at Erwin Put's site, it seems that the quality is as follows.
90 2 APO-Summicron ASPH. Best.
90 2.8 Elmarit-M. Excellent lens, equal to above lens at 5.6
90 2.8 Elmarit-M early. sharp and little flare.
90 2 Summicron-M. Not as good as the Elmarit-M
90 2.8 Tele-Elmarit-M. Not as good as the Elmarit.
Does anyone have experience/opinion on:
90 4 Elmar-C made in 1973-78?
90 4 Elmar
90 4 Elmar Collapsible.
How do these compare to the 90 2's and 90 2.8's listed above?
90 2 APO-Summicron ASPH. Best.
90 2.8 Elmarit-M. Excellent lens, equal to above lens at 5.6
90 2.8 Elmarit-M early. sharp and little flare.
90 2 Summicron-M. Not as good as the Elmarit-M
90 2.8 Tele-Elmarit-M. Not as good as the Elmarit.
Does anyone have experience/opinion on:
90 4 Elmar-C made in 1973-78?
90 4 Elmar
90 4 Elmar Collapsible.
How do these compare to the 90 2's and 90 2.8's listed above?
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Tom
I got given a old 90mm Elmar when I bought my M3 in the 80s. No one wanted it so the shop just gave to me. Not exactly the most fashionable Leica lens to have on your M7 or what ever. But they shouldn't be underestimated as a good working lens. Nothing to them build ways. They are almost indistructable, light and compact, slip it in the pocket and forget about it until needed.
The image quality is pretty good, not the same as APO Cron ASPH mind but still competes well with modern Nikon and Canon lenses. I beleive mine is only single coated. I have no quarms about +11 x 14" enlargements. They don't fetch high prices so if you've got some spare beer money left over go for it.
The collapsibles were also good but it may be hard to find one at a reasonable cost that hasn't suffered from too much work.
I got given a old 90mm Elmar when I bought my M3 in the 80s. No one wanted it so the shop just gave to me. Not exactly the most fashionable Leica lens to have on your M7 or what ever. But they shouldn't be underestimated as a good working lens. Nothing to them build ways. They are almost indistructable, light and compact, slip it in the pocket and forget about it until needed.
The image quality is pretty good, not the same as APO Cron ASPH mind but still competes well with modern Nikon and Canon lenses. I beleive mine is only single coated. I have no quarms about +11 x 14" enlargements. They don't fetch high prices so if you've got some spare beer money left over go for it.
The collapsibles were also good but it may be hard to find one at a reasonable cost that hasn't suffered from too much work.