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Just released Nikon D2X

> Posted by Innocent (Innocent) on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 5:27 pm: > > It couldn't have been more easier to "just buy one" if the Nikon > choices available are worth any contemplation. I have owned and or > used all the Nikon digital made to date, and I am sorry to disappoint > you that my own review is negative about them. Had I built up an > arsenal of Canon lenses and flash systems, coupled with software, > filters etc, like I already have with Nikon, my choice would have been > very obvious.

Absolutely - go with whatever system you are into. However, as we have discussed off-forum, the weaknesses in the photographs you showed me were not equipment related.

You REALLY need to learn PHOTOGRAPHY.

NO camera will work for you until you do. Going to Canon - or Oly, Pentax, Konica-Minolta, Fujifilm, Kodak or a medium format back will not make a difference until you learn. There is no magic bullet - cameras don't make photographs - photographers do.

Until you spend the time to become a photographer, you are on a fool's quest. Becoming fluent with a camera is no more difficult than becoming fluent with a musical instrument. Nor is it easier. Both take a LOT of time and practice!

> Secondly, the reason the question of film vs digital keeps coming back > is that, it seems that it had not been given any satisfactory answer > till now with the exception of Larry's recent post.

For a richer pontification on the topic please see http://www.larry-bolch.com/film-vs-digital/

larry! http://www.larry-bolch.com/ ICQ 76620504
 
> > Posted by Innocent (Innocent) on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 8:57 pm: > > Just as a matter of curiosity. Is there anyone in this forum who have > switched from Canon to Nikon?

In a way - I have both. They serve different purposes and both do what was intended very well. See my web site.

I also have equipment from Bronica, Linhof, Leitz, Olympus, Graflex, Minolta, Zeiss, Schneider, Plaubel, and a bunch of others. I use both digital and film where appropriate.

Each purchase was to solve a specific photographic problem and each did the job extremely well. It was about defining what was needed and finding the specific combination that did it best for the least amount of expense.

larry! http://www.larry-bolch.com/ ICQ 76620504
 
Larry, I've visited your sight and read your article on digital vs. film. Very impressive write-up, I'll say. I am actually looking for a more technical analysis of the two medium of photography, which should include their dynamic range, latitude, etc.

If you may visit my temporal site at www.civiclaw.co.uk you will notice my concern about dslr capture. Image architecture110 is captured with dslr and architecture11, 24 etc are negative; architecture 31 is dslr and architecture29 is positive. You can easily tell which of these medium resolves the sky much better. Do you still think that the difference has to do with exposure? While you are there, you may also assess the images and let me have your opinion.

I agree that for a busy pro digital may be more economical than film, but that is not to say that it is superior to the latter. With regards to having control over your images, I use Nikon Coolscan 5000ED and all the necessary software and of course a calibrated Diamond Pro 930 display. Other than the development of my films in the lab with the exception of B&W (Tech Pan-which I process myself), all the necessary adjustments are done in PS before I print them with Epson 2100. So You see I also have control over my images.
 
Innocent...... My God, you are still here? It has become very clear to me, besides everything else I have said about you before, I left out that you liked seeing your own posts posted here. I hate to be rude, but enough is enough.

Paul
 
I have a Nikon D70 with a number of DX lenses and a 70-200 VR lense and I am very happy with the results I get.I use an Epson RX500 Printer
and Epson matte paper and people cannot believe
some of my pictures they are so good.

What I do not like is the Nikon bashing in this
forum that is delivered to my e-mail almost every
day.If this forum has a moderator I recommend
that these people be banned.I want to listen and learn from other Nikon users that are enjoying
using some of the best equipment in the world to make art as an expression of themselves. The best tools in the world will not help someone that is not capable of seeing the beauty that is all around us every day.}
 
I agree - if you're so down and out on Nikon what brings you to a Nikon forum - why not go whine at the Cannon counterpart? This is a prime ex&le of why you have not had any luck with Nikon - you spend all your time whining about how bad Nikon is and can't possibly have time to devote to learning the finer technical aspects of shooting a great camera
 
Exactly. Tools are only as good as the artist or craftperson who uses them.

Price is a very good indicator of the quality of photographic tools. It is an extremely competitive business and prices are set with care. All camera makers are capable of making very cheap entry level cameras on par with each other. Many do very nice enthusiast cameras - again value for the money. At the top, the field narrows to a couple of 35mm makers and quite a number of medum-format brands.

Cameras at this level are rich in features and very well built. No one is dominant for long if ever, and buyers purchase based upon existing equipment, how closely the features fit with the style of shooting and the client demands - as well as how the camera feels and handles. At this level, it is like buying a concert piano - one may find a Steinway has the response and feel desired and another may find a home with a Bosendorfer. It is a matter of which best serves the skills of a pianist at the top of the profession. So it is with Nikon and Canon.

The D2X is not a direct competitor to the 1Ds and both are at the top of the list. While you can do photojournalism wth a 1Ds and studio or wedding work with a D2x, there might be some disappointment over the other way around. Nikon has always been the photojournalist's camera since Leica became a collector's item. Canon is late to the table there.

Nikon the company has served the photojournalism community in ways an enthusiast never sees. This level of support is deeply appreciated by people who put food on the family table with these instruments. Canon also has been pretty much forced to also provide support of this kind, simply to stay in the game.

Which is better? Both. Each serves the needs of its customers at this level. Which you chose depends on what you shoot, and which camera handles it better for the way you work. Bashing Nikon does not make the Canon one bit better - or vice versa. All the companies are struggling hard to provide the most bang for the buck. Let anyone slack or lean on their past laurels, and they will be out of the game.

I am a photographer, not a Nikon photographer, or Canon photographer or Linhof photographer, or Oly photographer, or Bronica photographer. Or any of the other brands I have or have used. It was not unusual to carry a Nikon as well as a Leica with a Canon lens - a particulary fine combination - to a given assignment. When traveling, my prime camera is a Plaubel Makina 67 with a mind-bogglingly superb f-2.8 80mm Nikkor.

Brand loyalty is a crock. At any given price level, it is design and features that separate the brands. Use whatever best fits your photographic goals first, and then look for the one that does it at the most affordable price. Most of my photojournalism was shot with Nikon equipment and it has served me well over the years. I can not say enough good things about the company as well, since the support I received was always above reproach.

If I have a shoot that the Nikon equipment is ill suited to, I switch to whatever will best do it. I will never blow a shoot out of some misguided loyalty to any corporation.

larry! http://www.larry-bolch.com/ ICQ 76620504
 
Paul, I'm still here. Where else shall I go? I'm stuck with Nikon and you lot. If you you think I whining, go to some other Nikon forum, then you will be glad you have me here. If you think I am for Canon then you are wrong. I hate Canon more, hence I started my photography with Nikon, its ergonomics, fine line-up of lenses, the Nikon flash systems, these are the attributes that a Nikon owner can be proud of. I don't want an equipment that burn-out every 9 months in terms of value like the Canon, hence when the d2h was devalued, it took every Nikon owner by surprise, an unprecedented issue. Historically, Nikon only built lenses and Canon the body but that has changed now ( I am not saying that Nikon should go back and do what it historically does best- build lenses only, but that could be an option for them).

My only concern is that for landscape work the Nikon dslr that I have used aren't as good as my F5 combo in terms of overall performance. Nikon has set itself such a high standard in the F5 and possibly the F6 (which my dealer advised me not to look at), so its digital line-up is bound to be assessed along the F5 calibre. Will I buy the D2X?, you bet I will but not the first batch, I'll let the pros have it (even though I have reservation of it across the globe). I still have my WT1A waiting for it. So Paul, I am a true disciple of Nikon albeit a critical one.
 
Dude you are totally insane - one breath you trash the product and then say your stuck with it (Your not stuck you just have a need to be listened to and all your ranting and BS banter has really became very old - I for one think you should be standing in the return line - you obviously have nothing better to do than litter this board with you lame BS - If you were a serious photog you would be out shooting something man. Either get over it and accept you're lacking any real photography skills and try to learn how to use the cameras you paid for, I am sure you were not forced in any way to lay your cash down you did it of your own free will- or go the hell away! No one but you made you buy a Nikon - sell it if your not happy and start shooting something you enjoy - life is much too short to live the way you do - I really pity you - pathetic!
 
Keith, thank you for your response to Innocence, I for one am done with him. It's a waste of our valuable time responding to him.

Paul
 
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