Hi,
Fuji announced last week the new X-E3. If you look at the target group, it seems to aim for the same users, who also look at the Panasonic Lumix GX80/GX85. So I had the idea why not comparing those two with each other - as far as this is possible at the moment, because you can not buy the X-E3 yet.
I do myself use the Panasonic Lumix GX80, but use next to my MFT system also a Fuji X-system. I sold my Fuji X-E1, Fuji X-M1 and Fuji X-T1, but kept my Fuji X-Pro1 with many/ almost all Fuji lenses. So I guess I am allowed to criticise both systems if necessary
We have an MFT forum and also a Fuji Forum here at Camera-info.com. Since I do not want to double post the same thread and we are not fanboys of a specific brandname, I decided to put this thread into the MFT forum this time, since this is the camera I currently have here in my hands.
I will add more features and criteria over the time. You are welcome to add your own criteria in this thread and I hope for a nice discussion about the pro and cons here.
For those of you, who are not familiar with teh GX80: The GX80 (in North America called GX85) is the first Panasonic MFT camera which des not have an AA filter in front of the sensor. Thanks to this, it achieves almost the same resolution of the "bigger" GX8, which has the new 20MP sensor of the MFT system, like the Olympus EM1.2.
Panasonic is constantly updating features and performance of its cameras. So the AF of the GX80/GX85 is really a milestone for Panasonic and for the MFT system in general. Maybe the new Olympus Em1.2 and the new GH5 is better now, but I did not test this yet. All I can say is that the GX80 blows my X-T1 and XPro1 away regarding AF speed and accuracy. Daylight and low light.
I waited for a long time for the announcement of the Fuji X-E3. I found the X-Pro2 and X-T2 too expensive for what they offered over my X-Pro1 (for my individual use). I did not like the X-T20 from the design and handling. So I had high hopes for the upcoming X-E3 (I liked my X-E1 a lot!).
At the moment, I have the impression that the X-E3 can not really deliver for what I was hoping for. I expected more for a price tag of 899.- €. The GX80 looks like a bargain now compared to the X-E3 at half the price with all the features I expected to see also in the X-E3. I have to see how the X-E3 works in my hands once it is available to make a final judgement though...
So I start with the specs which were important for me during my buying decision process a couple of months ago for the Panasonic Lumix GX80/85. This is not a specific order. I will not list all technical data here.
What I liked the most was the possibility with the MFT system to combine the best compromise for me between size of the whole system (body AND lenses) and image quality of the improved GX80/GX85 sensor.
I highlight in a different colour those features/values, which the GX80/GX85 has and the X-E3 does not or in which the Panasonic is better than the Fuji and vice versa.
The Fujifil X-E3 on the other hand has in my view the following advantages and/or specs in the above mentioned features. Some I have to guess for the moment until I have a unit in my hand.
To be continued as soon as more information is available and/or I get one in my hands.
Thread is nevertheless already open for discussion
Fuji announced last week the new X-E3. If you look at the target group, it seems to aim for the same users, who also look at the Panasonic Lumix GX80/GX85. So I had the idea why not comparing those two with each other - as far as this is possible at the moment, because you can not buy the X-E3 yet.
I do myself use the Panasonic Lumix GX80, but use next to my MFT system also a Fuji X-system. I sold my Fuji X-E1, Fuji X-M1 and Fuji X-T1, but kept my Fuji X-Pro1 with many/ almost all Fuji lenses. So I guess I am allowed to criticise both systems if necessary
We have an MFT forum and also a Fuji Forum here at Camera-info.com. Since I do not want to double post the same thread and we are not fanboys of a specific brandname, I decided to put this thread into the MFT forum this time, since this is the camera I currently have here in my hands.
I will add more features and criteria over the time. You are welcome to add your own criteria in this thread and I hope for a nice discussion about the pro and cons here.
For those of you, who are not familiar with teh GX80: The GX80 (in North America called GX85) is the first Panasonic MFT camera which des not have an AA filter in front of the sensor. Thanks to this, it achieves almost the same resolution of the "bigger" GX8, which has the new 20MP sensor of the MFT system, like the Olympus EM1.2.
Panasonic is constantly updating features and performance of its cameras. So the AF of the GX80/GX85 is really a milestone for Panasonic and for the MFT system in general. Maybe the new Olympus Em1.2 and the new GH5 is better now, but I did not test this yet. All I can say is that the GX80 blows my X-T1 and XPro1 away regarding AF speed and accuracy. Daylight and low light.
I waited for a long time for the announcement of the Fuji X-E3. I found the X-Pro2 and X-T2 too expensive for what they offered over my X-Pro1 (for my individual use). I did not like the X-T20 from the design and handling. So I had high hopes for the upcoming X-E3 (I liked my X-E1 a lot!).
At the moment, I have the impression that the X-E3 can not really deliver for what I was hoping for. I expected more for a price tag of 899.- €. The GX80 looks like a bargain now compared to the X-E3 at half the price with all the features I expected to see also in the X-E3. I have to see how the X-E3 works in my hands once it is available to make a final judgement though...
So I start with the specs which were important for me during my buying decision process a couple of months ago for the Panasonic Lumix GX80/85. This is not a specific order. I will not list all technical data here.
What I liked the most was the possibility with the MFT system to combine the best compromise for me between size of the whole system (body AND lenses) and image quality of the improved GX80/GX85 sensor.
I highlight in a different colour those features/values, which the GX80/GX85 has and the X-E3 does not or in which the Panasonic is better than the Fuji and vice versa.
- 16MP sensor without AA filter
- LCD viewfinder 2,764K. Eye point 17.5mm, Magnification: 1.39x / 0.7x
- Very good AF system (Contrast AF with DFD), even in low light (EV -4 up to 18)
- AF and fps "good enough" for sport (Mechanical shutter with 8 fps, 6fps with live view)
- Small size & built quality, look (rangefinder)
- Mechanical shutter 60s to 1/4.000s
- Electronic shutter 1s to 1/16.000s
- 14 Bit RAW
- Dual IS (in body IS and IS on almost all Pana lenses). Image Sensor Shift Type (5-axis)
- 4K Video
- Post Fokus
- Fokus Stacking
- Touchscreen
- Tilt screen
- Smart-Touch-Screen lock customization (settings in the menu to avoid accidental change of settings over the touchscreen)
- Very good UI (in the menu and on the body position of buttons)
- Many programmable FN buttons
- Auto ISO in manual mode
- Easy transfer to smartphone (Wifi IEEE 802.11b/g/n)
- Price (now around 450.- €)
- Small & light lens system with "good enough IQ: tiny & light lenses with very good up to excellent image quality (15/1.7, 25/1.7, 42.5/1.7, 12-32 Kitlens, 35-100/2.8 HD, 9-18mm etc. pp.)
The Fujifil X-E3 on the other hand has in my view the following advantages and/or specs in the above mentioned features. Some I have to guess for the moment until I have a unit in my hand.
- 24MP X-Trans III sensor (no AA filter)
- 0.39-in., 2,360K OLED viewfinder, Eye point 17.5mm, Magnification : 0.62x
- Very good AF system in bright light, only good AF system in low light (? EV) and sport (?)
- AF and fps "good enough" for sport? (8fps/5fps with or without live view?)
- Size & built (?), look (rangefinder)
- Mechanical shutter 30s to 1/4.000s
- Electronic shutter 30s to 1/32.000s
- 14 Bit RAW
- 4K Video
- Touchscreen
- Very good UI (in the menu and on the body position of buttons ?)
- Easy transfer to smartphone (Bluetooth 4.0 & Wifi IEEE 802.11b/g/n)
- Microphone input (Φ2.5mm)
- Price 899.-€
- ....
To be continued as soon as more information is available and/or I get one in my hands.
Thread is nevertheless already open for discussion