So why did you and why will you

[qnu]

Jürgen,

Congratulated again with this marvel you just 'won'. Having it hand delivered too. What luxury!

Udo Afalter's book is nice, but rather too full of errors, don't you agree? Ranging from what presumably are just typos, to omissions, to plain and simple errors.
Still, a nice compilation.

There are some other books as well, but they mainly describe how Hasselblad equipment is used. Like Wildi's editions of "the Hasselblad Manual", and Heinrich Freytag's "Das Hasselblad Buch". Bob Shell's "Hasselblad System", also available in a revised German translation by Guido Puttkammer: "Das Hasselblad System". Puttkammer also co-authored "Das grosse Hasselblad Handbuch".
There are more, of course. Many smaller publications, published by their respective authors.

Then there are many articles from magazines, Hasselblad publications, etc.

But nothing can beat Richard Nordin's effort, of course. His "System Compendium" is a true treasure!

Yet... not all the interesting information is in print. Not yet.

Remember, before things can get printed, they have to be collected. And that's what "collectors" do, right?
There are still topics about which (more) information needs to be collected. Still work to do. So if you feel you too might be a "collector"...

What coincidence, but i have a "CH" and a "CP" 1600 F as well! Does your "CP" have 'white metal' shutter curtains too?
Mine are not quite that 'beautiful' anymore (in fact, one has been recently demoted, assigned to "sit still and be admired"-duty). I was planning/hoping to send them off to David Knapman to be overhauled (if and when he finds time).
But now you mention another Hasselblad-Veteran, Nils Peterson. Does he still service 'ancient' Hasselblads today? Do you have contact info (email, postal address)?

Have a great day sunday,

Q.G.

(Obviously not my real name, but my real initials. Somehow - and i will be to blame for this - my 'internet-persona' only goes by my initials.)

 

[jotloob]

Q.G.
Nils Peterson retired in 1987 and David Knapman took over .
Please see compendium page 93 right hand side under REPAIR .
But my 1600F still got serviced by Nils Petersen . So i am afraid , that only a couple of persons can still repair the 1600F / 1000F cameras . Might be that David Odess can , i am not shure .
So i keep my 1600F cameras in my collection and dont dare to use them .
I bought Afalters book , because i did not know of the existence of Rick Nordins Compendium.
I too find that there are many errors in the book and i think ,that it is very superficial . In other words i am glad that i got the compendium and the hint to that book i obtained by this forum .
So you are right it is a great treasure .

Both of my 1600F have dark grey coloured curtains .
Now i am looking forward to get that SW tomorrow . In one of the last HASSELBLAD FORUM (little booklet , published 4 times a year) was a very good article about the development and production of the CARL ZEISS BIOGON . But you shurely get that booklet as well . Rest regards . Jürgen

 

[qnu]

Jürgen,

If your 1600 Fs are in 'usable' condition, by all means, use them!
That's what they were made for, and it will not harm them.
Same for your newly acquired, soon to be delivered SW.

Black trim Hasselblad cameras could move you to tears, you said. The idea of leaving these fine machines sitting unused causes me great unease.
(That's why my "sit and be admired" camera will be off to Knapman soon. I hope.)

These 'oldies', and their fine lenses, produce excellent results, very much on par with what 'modern' equipment delivers.
And except for the manual diaphragm, they are as easy and quick to use as more modern Hasselblads.

So do go out and have fun with these cameras!

 

[jotloob]

Q.G.
Yes , i will go out and use my 1600F with the 135mm lens , not to compare , but just to take pictures and to know , that the equipment , i use , is 50 years old .
NOW joy comes up , big joy . The SW is in an absolute great condition . Almost no signs of use , all shutter times work well , all lenses are clean and perfect the view finder is clean and in very good condition . a very good buy . Just the front lens ring is
missing . What i am trying to find out is : has there ever been a lens hood for that camera ? ? He used an early type of HASSELBLAD shade compendium in combination with a special adapter ring , because he had no lens shade . So , has there ever been one ? ? I can't find anything in Ricks compendium .

He sold that camera , because he fullfilled his big dream : he bought an ALPA SW with palisander grips and . . . . . . . .
a CARL ZEISS BIOGON . Only very few were produced with that lens . I will keep in touch with him , because we have the same B/W interests.

 

[qnu]

Jürgen,

I cannot find mention of a lens hood in any of the factory literature from that era i have.
My guess (almost certain) is that there wasn't one.

You can use the Hasselblad series 63 retaining ring also sold for C versions of the SWC, and the 50 and 60 mm Distagons.

The series 63 lens shade also sold for the SWC may be usable too.

I tell you, if i had a choice between a clean and working SW, or an Alpa, i know what i'd choose...
The Biogon was (!) sold with the Alpa, promising you'd get some shift out of it. A mostly false promise: very limited, and only when using a smaller-than-usual format.
But of course the Biogon is a great lens when used on the Alpa too. Still, i'd much rather have it on a SW than on the (bigger) Alpa.
Anyway, that's your seller's problem.

Enjoy your little gem!


P.S.

A note about my "shutter story":
When i wrote "they had a full automatic Hasselblad, as good as ready to be launched!", the "ready to be launched part" needs toning down.
They had it "ready", as far as figuring out what to do was concerned. Not in the sense that they already had the necessary tooling made, production lines set up, ready to roll, etc.

 

[jotloob]

Q.G.
Yes i enjoy my little gem .
Do you have a series 63 retaining ring ? ? ?
If so , could you measure the diameter of the thread for me ? ?
(outer diameter) or can anyone else with such an adapter ring help ? ? ?
The thread on that Biogon is somewhat 67 mm and 67x0,75 filters will fit , but not properly . So it must be something near 67 mm .
If you have a lenshood for the series 63 , then how long is it ? ? ?
I know it is obviously about 3 mm longer for the 50mm and 60mm lens . Can you help ? ?
Best regards Jürgen

 

[qnu]

Jürgen,

The series 63 thread is indeed close to, but not quite the same as metric 67 mm thread.
"63" mount is the Hasselblad name for what is otherwise known as "series VIII" (i believe originally a Kodak designation?).

I'm sorry, but i do not know the exact specifications of the thread used (i don't have one of those guages to measure them either).
I do know that the speed of the screw mount is different, and, being "english", the 'thread angle/top angle' probably is too.

And i'm sorry too about not having a series 63 Biogon lens hood. Sorry!

Both retaining rings and lens hoods can be found on eBay regularly.

 

[jotloob]

Q.G.
Yes you are right , the SERIES 63 ADAPTERRING and LENSHOOD should fit . I found this not written in a text in the compendium , but in the pricelist an page 80 .

 

[qnu]

Page 80! What an absolute marvel this book is, isn't it? The detail... Love it!
People, get one! Better get two!

Jürgen,

Is the ground glass back you got with the SW the 'original' one with the little "v" in the middle of the screen, and/or are there two screws above and below the screen?
If so, another reason to envy you...

Off-topic:
May i take this opportunity add to the list of things i'm sorry for?
I'm sorry for misspelling "gauge". I'm probably sorry for misspelling "misspelling" too. And for all the other times i have massacred the english language.

But (this was leading somewhere) most sorry i am for this change in styling that was 'thrust upon us'.
Dear Administrator, can we then at least have bright yellow letters?
(Yellow seems to contrast best with this gray grayness that this forum was dunked in.

See?)

 

[jotloob]

Q.G.

Unfortunately the ground glass back is of the currently produced type , the SWC adapter and has the following number 30 41050 .
The condition is like brand new .
Lovely : your Off-Topic remarks .