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What's up on february first 2010 at 18:00 ?

What about a digital MF Hasselblad without mirror but with electronic viewfinder instead. A substantially enlarged Panasonic Lumix DMC-G1. Quite compact, no mirror slap.

Ulrik


Ulrik

Hard to believe , that your dream will come true .
A mirrorless camerabody will only be an advantage , if the body would be shorter and lighter . Not knowing , if it would work with a removeable DBACK .
But if so , the focal flange length of the lenses will not fit any more . It is hard to believe for me , that HASSELBLAD would investigate any cent into a new system , like a micro MF system with new techique in the body and new lenses .
BTW , I own a LUMIX G1 and I love that camera . Image quality is very good .
But that has got nothing to do with MF digital .

Jürgen
 
A few thoughts:

What will sell the S2 (if at all) are the lenses ... dual shutter versions made by a premiere optics company. Phase One now offers a similar optics choice from Schneider. Jury is still out on whether the lenses are as superior as Leica said they would be.

Remains the question if there is any sense in investing in a complete range of lenses that only fit an S2, primarily if you already have a more or less complete H-series kit. Even if the S2 lenses are better, do they warrant the expense? Will your customers see the difference, and, more importantly, will it pay for itself?

I still cannot see S2 as a game changer relative to the H-series. And given Leica's less than stellar track record in digital cameras I for one would not want to be an early adopter. Not even if I was the Sultan of Brunei :)

Wilko
 
Nice to read about all these dreams and wishes.
I can only hope Hasselblad comes up with a good surprise for us.


Paul
 
Hasselblad marketing department is on acid these past few years as far as I'm concerned....i hope im proved wrong but i fear it will be much ado about nothing....if hasselblad wanna sell then they gotta come up with a 4,000 euro masterpiece 'something' thats a full package.
 
Hasselblad marketing department is on acid these past few years as far as I'm concerned....i hope im proved wrong but i fear it will be much ado about nothing....if hasselblad wanna sell then they gotta come up with a 4,000 euro masterpiece 'something' thats a full package.

Yeah, since we seem to be smoking something that alters reality ... Nikon should sell me the D3X for 2,000 Euros, and Leica should sell me the M9 for 3,000. Euros.

-Marc
 
I still think that if there isn ONE thing Hasselblad could do that would excite it's base of long time users to open their wallets for a bit of NEW gear....it would be a reasonably priced, full frame square sensor digital back. I think there are quite a few V-system owners who would jump at the chance to own one.....I know I would.

Why bother developing completely new camera systems (like a digital Xpan) when they could get a quick win with a full frame square sensor back? Assuming of course, that a full frame square sensor can be sourced from Kodak, Dalsa or whomever....at a reasonable price.

Reasonable price being in the eye of the beholder, of course......but I think it would have to be in the neighborhood of $6k USD, which I suppose, means this will never happen.

Gary
 
Remains the question if there is any sense in investing in a complete range of lenses that only fit an S2, primarily if you already have a more or less complete H-series kit. Even if the S2 lenses are better, do they warrant the expense? Will your customers see the difference, and, more importantly, will it pay for itself?

I still cannot see S2 as a game changer relative to the H-series. And given Leica's less than stellar track record in digital cameras I for one would not want to be an early adopter. Not even if I was the Sultan of Brunei :)

Wilko

What other camera also take H lenses ... or Contax 645 lenses for that matter? Any fully integrated electronic lens system is going to be proprietary isn't it?

It remains to be seen what Leica does with the other lenses yet to come. They traditionally have been quite good at wide angle lenses so it'll be interesting to see if that carries over to the W/A S2 lenses. W/A is the real playing field when it comes to MFD optics.

Will the clients see the IQ difference? Between what and what? Between the S2 and H3D-II 39? Probably not much ... which is in Leica's favor actually if you are building a kit from scratch. The difference is the form factor with a smaller DSLR sized camera that offers a dual shutter ability ... where the H camera tops out at 1/800th shutter forcing you to stop down when you may not want to ... which is a BIG creative difference and the reason I dearly wish for a H camera with a focal plane shutter that will also allow use of the leaf shutter H lenses to 1/800th. The S2 is also fully weather sealed for location work.

Will it pay for itself? That depends on what work you do and the pay scale.

The S2 has it's charms ... price isn't one of them.

In the end it's just to expensive as a replacement for an existing MFD system. I had hopes it'd replace all the 35mm DSLR gear I use based on how I use 35mm digital. Not sure it could.

I shot about 170 images with the S2, 70 and 180 lenses ... and the images are beautiful. A unique signature, almost film like in tonal response and feel. At first I didn't know how to process the files and I wasn't thrilled ... but after a little time I got it down better.

-Marc
 
The countdown on the Hasselblad Website has some more information added now:

"Curiosity’s killing you, isn't it?

What if we were to tell you that our little surprise is something that can help you get famous?

What if we were to tell you that we can put your work in front of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people, absolutely free of charge?

What if we were to tell you that you still have to wait until February 1st to find out the rest?"


So I am sceptical that it will be a hardware surprise.

Ulrik
 
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