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D70 vs D100
- Thread starter lnbolch
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alan_russell
Member
Hi all,
got an unanswered question here..
What is the maxumium sized file of the RAW NEF when it is converted to Tiff? I'm curious about this due to the fact that my 4000ED Nikon Scanner yields me 5959 x 3946 after scanning a color negative. The scanned negative does yield at 14 bits color depth a 135mb file at max before any cropping takes place in Photoshop 7.
TIA
Alan Russell
got an unanswered question here..
What is the maxumium sized file of the RAW NEF when it is converted to Tiff? I'm curious about this due to the fact that my 4000ED Nikon Scanner yields me 5959 x 3946 after scanning a color negative. The scanned negative does yield at 14 bits color depth a 135mb file at max before any cropping takes place in Photoshop 7.
TIA
Alan Russell
Alan,
I don't know how large the RAW files are because I never shoot RAW...only JPEG. Scanned negatives are second-generation output, so there's really no good analogous comparison to first-generation digital capture because of the differences. When a 35mm neg is scanned, you get an image size that's the size of the negative - anything larger magnifies any minute grain, scratches scanner noise, etc. and must be cleaned up before printing and that clean-up process degrades/changes the image. A 6 megapixel JPEG is about 17 megabytes when converted to TIFF.
Greg
I don't know how large the RAW files are because I never shoot RAW...only JPEG. Scanned negatives are second-generation output, so there's really no good analogous comparison to first-generation digital capture because of the differences. When a 35mm neg is scanned, you get an image size that's the size of the negative - anything larger magnifies any minute grain, scratches scanner noise, etc. and must be cleaned up before printing and that clean-up process degrades/changes the image. A 6 megapixel JPEG is about 17 megabytes when converted to TIFF.
Greg
alan_russell
Member
Vince,
As an educator, I wouldn't dare tell my students "To give it a rest" especailly when it comes to furthering your knowledge on any given subject. Making comparisons is part of acquiring knowledge which forms the base for higher level thinking skills. If I chooses to investigate an issue whether its in the digital or film forums, this is my choice.
Alan Russell
As an educator, I wouldn't dare tell my students "To give it a rest" especailly when it comes to furthering your knowledge on any given subject. Making comparisons is part of acquiring knowledge which forms the base for higher level thinking skills. If I chooses to investigate an issue whether its in the digital or film forums, this is my choice.
Alan Russell
Alan
what is it that you want to know? This is not rocket science Alan, every reputable review site like stevesdigicams,dpreview,popular photography, etc. have given this camera great reviews, with more information than your knowledge based mind can handle. They will tell you everthing you need to know pros, cons or otherwise! All due respect Alan but this is not the place to obtain that kind knowledge. Alan to be honest your the type of educator I wouldn't my kids being taught by.I mean you don't even know where to look to obtain the knowledge.
what is it that you want to know? This is not rocket science Alan, every reputable review site like stevesdigicams,dpreview,popular photography, etc. have given this camera great reviews, with more information than your knowledge based mind can handle. They will tell you everthing you need to know pros, cons or otherwise! All due respect Alan but this is not the place to obtain that kind knowledge. Alan to be honest your the type of educator I wouldn't my kids being taught by.I mean you don't even know where to look to obtain the knowledge.
olebojensen
Active Member
Hey guys
Please keep this dicussion on a decent level.
Alan, I understand you're interest in getting these answers. Personally, I have bought the D70 + 18-70, and for certain type of use, its great, but just today, I sold a digital copy of a 16 yrs old slide, I scanned it on my Nikon coolscan 40, ran it through neat-image, and played with it in PS, and wow, these old medias still is great.
If you have the patience, I still will recommend you to use your 28-105 + Coolscan 4000 combo, and use your money for flowers to your wife, a great travel and lots of film.
Come june, I'm going to California for 3 weeks, and guess whats going with me in the bag. Contax Aria, 18/4, 28/2.8, and 80-200, and of course a lot of fujichrome. I know a lot of you out there have given in over the D70, it is a great camera, and the 18-70 is a very nice lens, and the price is very OK, but I still like the Zeiss/Fuji combo over the Nikon.
Regards
Ole
http://www.photos4u.dk
Please keep this dicussion on a decent level.
Alan, I understand you're interest in getting these answers. Personally, I have bought the D70 + 18-70, and for certain type of use, its great, but just today, I sold a digital copy of a 16 yrs old slide, I scanned it on my Nikon coolscan 40, ran it through neat-image, and played with it in PS, and wow, these old medias still is great.
If you have the patience, I still will recommend you to use your 28-105 + Coolscan 4000 combo, and use your money for flowers to your wife, a great travel and lots of film.
Come june, I'm going to California for 3 weeks, and guess whats going with me in the bag. Contax Aria, 18/4, 28/2.8, and 80-200, and of course a lot of fujichrome. I know a lot of you out there have given in over the D70, it is a great camera, and the 18-70 is a very nice lens, and the price is very OK, but I still like the Zeiss/Fuji combo over the Nikon.
Regards
Ole
http://www.photos4u.dk
Hiya Allan,
I understand your dilemna as I am in the same position.
Here's where I stand:
I own a F80 and feel (correctly or not?) that the D70 is the closest digital match available. Though I do feel it is a pretty good little camera, it's not enough; it's not a pro level camera and I can tell.
I will likely be purchasing a D2H or a D100 simply because with the F80 being not enough for me, I'm assuming the D70 will be as restrictive. So I'm gonna go the extra mile this time and grow into the next camera. The D70 being a consumer grade doesn't sound like it's going to be enough for you either, and for the price, you ought to get what you want. The choices are a little scarry.
I wish for a way in between scanning and shooting digital, but there isn't one. My biggest problem with digital is the longevity of prints. If you don't care about that, go digital - it'll save you tons of hours of scanning and cleaning.
Good luck - I'll be paying attention to what you decide on and how it works for you.
Birgit
I understand your dilemna as I am in the same position.
Here's where I stand:
I own a F80 and feel (correctly or not?) that the D70 is the closest digital match available. Though I do feel it is a pretty good little camera, it's not enough; it's not a pro level camera and I can tell.
I will likely be purchasing a D2H or a D100 simply because with the F80 being not enough for me, I'm assuming the D70 will be as restrictive. So I'm gonna go the extra mile this time and grow into the next camera. The D70 being a consumer grade doesn't sound like it's going to be enough for you either, and for the price, you ought to get what you want. The choices are a little scarry.
I wish for a way in between scanning and shooting digital, but there isn't one. My biggest problem with digital is the longevity of prints. If you don't care about that, go digital - it'll save you tons of hours of scanning and cleaning.
Good luck - I'll be paying attention to what you decide on and how it works for you.
Birgit
Birgit
let me get this strait you own a consumer grade F80 but the D70 is not pro enough for you? Then you go on to say that your thinking of purchasing the D2h which is a pro camera that weighs 3 LB without a lens in which I think your not making any money off,have fun walking with that around your neck all day! You also mention that you might consider D100 which I and many others feel is a camera that was replaced by the more featured D70.Birgit maybe with a D2h around your neck people might think you a pro???
let me get this strait you own a consumer grade F80 but the D70 is not pro enough for you? Then you go on to say that your thinking of purchasing the D2h which is a pro camera that weighs 3 LB without a lens in which I think your not making any money off,have fun walking with that around your neck all day! You also mention that you might consider D100 which I and many others feel is a camera that was replaced by the more featured D70.Birgit maybe with a D2h around your neck people might think you a pro???
Hi Birgit,
The longevity of digital prints is not a problem for me. I manipulate the images in PS, copy them back on to a CF card and take them to a 1-Hour lab that prints them onto the same photographic paper as if they came from film. I downloaded the profile of the printer from the web and the results are better than what I get from my film Nikons.
Ron
The longevity of digital prints is not a problem for me. I manipulate the images in PS, copy them back on to a CF card and take them to a 1-Hour lab that prints them onto the same photographic paper as if they came from film. I downloaded the profile of the printer from the web and the results are better than what I get from my film Nikons.
Ron