DPR Forum

Welcome to the Friendly Aisles!
DPRF is a spin-off of dpreview. We are a photography forum with people from all over the world freely sharing their knowledge and love of photography. Everybody is welcome, from beginners to the experienced professional. From smartphone to Medium Format.

DPRF is a community for everybody, every brand and every sensor format. Digital and film.
Enjoy this modern, easy to use software. Look also at our Reviews & Gallery!

First one here? More please!

PARA: If I were looking for my first modifier today, I think I would choose a para first because I find a para to be more versatile over a softbox. Frankly today, I most likely wouldn't bother with a softbox, as it's too easy for a para to pull that duty - a bed sheet can cheap and effective (though hideous looking draped over your para), but if you want to get really selective, you can find whatever diffusion material fits your liking best at nearest fabric/sewing store and cut it to size, where it fits onto the para nice-and-neat. Some manufacturers actually make diffusion material to fit onto their paras, but hell will freeze and turn to ice cream before I spend money on diffusion material from, say, Broncolor, when I can get the same result using cheap fabric from a fabric/sewing shop or from my own linen closet. I don't like spending money when money doesn't need to be spent. If Parabolix offers diffusion fabric at a reasonable price, then that may be a better solution than spending time doing it yourself.

POWER: Yes, the position of the strobe makes a difference, but please be very aware that how much power you send to your strobe and through a respective modifier can also make a HUGE difference! Some strobes and power packs have a very wide power range; a lot of power when the pack is turned up high, and very, very little power when the pack is set to extremely low power, which can also come in handy. The larger the para in relation to the subject, the more of a "soft specular" look one can achieve. There's a reason the larger paras are said to have a "hard, but soft kind of light."

MODELING LIGHT: Please be cognizant that modeling lights come in different types. Some have a step-less power range, allowing the photographer to go from a soft low glow at low power, to a blinding white light at full power, fully 'dimmable' without having to deal with specific power settings (e.g. 1-10 for example) The dimmable modeling lights on my old Bowens strobes (Model: Bowens Esprit; 500ws) can create the soft warm candle-light looking glow that I like... they also get hot enough to bake a cake. Conversely, my small Broncolor strobes that I use today (Model: MobiLED) are white/daylight LED modeling lights and the power cannot be adjusted.. they're either on or off, 30w LEDs, about the equiv. of a 100w bulb, and stay pretty cool. The modeling light(s) in my ringflash (200w Halogen lights) emit a warm glow...

If you're stopped down to F10 and you're shooting handheld, then you're probably not going to get much out of the modeling light as an actual useful 'light'. However, if you're shooting from tripod/camera stand at slow shutter speeds, the modeling light(s) + ambient lighting can offer aesthetic options that you might not have otherwise considered, or which may not have been available to you when hand-holding the camera (due to needing faster shutter speeds).
 
Wow. Thank you very much teiladay for all this useful information!
I have the 300 and 400 watt Godox flashes now, and I can shoot “bare bulb” with these (which should be possible for using them inside a para, I think). Also it seems to be possible to set brightness in small steps. Comforting to know that, at least in your opinion, paras can very well be used as a first light shaper and even as a softbox! Encouraging also!
All advice is welcome and you surely took your time to share knowledge! Thnxs again!
 
I don't think a para is a good modifier to learn lighting with. There are too many variables and the type of light it produces doesn't lend itself to easily learning how lighting works. However, you pays your monies, you takes your chances.
 
I don't think a para is a good modifier to learn lighting with. There are too many variables and the type of light it produces doesn't lend itself to easily learning how lighting works. However, you pays your monies, you takes your chances.
Thnxs macro guy! In doubt here. As I said before, I’ll read more and more (especially experiences), before I buy anything. Sure opinions and experiences are different . I’ll just have to choose what I think fits me best.
By the way….your name. Especially interested or into macro photography? If so, what lens do you use?
 
Sounds interesting. Every now and then I also shoot macro. Started this during corona (not too many models then, so I started with macro).
 
I started doing macro because I felt limited by the photographic process in terms of having to shoot what was there. I wanted to use photography to create what's not there. Doing macro and light painting allows me to do just that.
 
I found this article on Luminous Landscape. Very interesting (although a bit limited on the technical "how-to-do" side). I really like those light painting results! Nothing short of spectacular. Never tried this, but I definitely will!


William Ropp is a name that comes to mind when I think of light painting. Different from work in the link above ofcourse, but I love his work as well. As I said, I never tried this.....yet.
 
I'm disappointed that in 2023, sync speed is still an issue, and that tech superseding HSS and HS hasn't emerged. It seems that basic things such as color temp consistency and short flash durations are now basic expectations across the board not just in the premium lighting gear - thus I wonder what new useful (not gimmicky) features will be offered in new lights and power packs.... or will we see a notable shift in manufacturers directing more of their resources to innovating lighting solutions for video?
I think LEDs will more or less replace flash. Smartphones don't reliably sync with flash, beginners have trouble understanding the concepts, and video only works with continuous lights, so I doubt much R&D is directed at flash.
But, as in most cases of pessimism, I'd love to be wrong.
 
You could be right Klaus, but then I also think that AI might eventually replace photography in general, and also LED' s could become unnecessary.
With you, I wouldn't mind being wrong.
 
Back
Top