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Fuji GFX Medium Format - Why I am so disappointed

thanks Dirk, you may be right in several topics mentioned, as i'm a friend of fruitfull critics:

Where is the benefit for studio work to buy GFX?
Where for handheld outdoor use (OIS? Compact as X1D ...)

No that I'm a humble follower of Mr Northrup, but his critic about X1D does somehow apply to GFX too. Ever compared a traditional Viewfinder (M6, TX-1) to a GW690 - same here, upsizing wount work so well ...
 
Hi DeusExMamiya,

there will never be a camera, which will please all the same way. I only expressed my personal opinion. I do think that both cameras will find their customers. IMHO Hasselblad is enlarging its customer base by offering now at a low price and smaller body a medium format camera that suits the "needs" of a new target group. which was not addressed with ist current H-line. Portability and design are two very important criteria IMHO for that target group.

At the same time it offers the same features as in the H-line (leaf shutter with sync speed up to 1/2000s) and adds usability. Touch screen AND dials at the same time. You pick what you prefer ;)

For me, Fuji is offering from the design perspective nothing new to other offerings i.e. Pentax. The Fuji X-system gave us something, that did not exist anymore (thats why I called it retro design).

I am not sure whether Nikon lenses on a 50MP Medium Format sensor will give satisfying results. And I do not think that Fuji wants that. They rather sell their own new G lenses ;)

best wishes
 
Vivek said:
I won't call you "thin". :)

btw ,I am buying the GFX and I think you are "funny". LOL
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:)

So why not participate in a constructive discussion about pros and cons?
I posted already why I like the X1D more than the GFX. So how about you? Why do you prefer the Fuji?
 
Do you want to use the camera, or make love to it??? Don't get me wrong, a sexy looking camera is great to have. It's definitely low on the totem poll compared to functionality though.

I too was disappointed, but primarily with the horrible flash sync speed!
 
Dirk, thanks for getting this conversation started. It certainly takes tough skin to do so. I own an older Hassy 50 and also a Nikon D800. I was eager to hear from Nikon about a significant upgrade (bummer!) and was excited to hear about the Fuji announcement since they design great lenses. I am disappointed in what I see from this latest Fuji offering and hoped for something much more like the Hassy X1D. I used to own a Hassy Xpan which was essentially built by Fuji and the wonderful lenses were Fuji design too. So, I am undecided which way to proceed too. It is not a perfect world. Thanks again.
 
I think the point is well taken why break out with a non apple-mac design in today's world and buck the mass approval of design when it's would have been not only simpler but award winning to go the other way with the design.
Sorry but I have to agree Fuji or the Fuji board making the final decisions about design and product development needs to be removed from the process. It's the same stubborn decisions like no locking dials ot our cameras don't need artificial light compatibility or 16 MP is enough.
The older conservative Fuji guard would politely bow out and make way for the young talented workers with in the company who are being help back because of traditional belifs.

WOW how can anyone argue that in 2017 the GFX doesn't SCREAM FUGULY?
On another note where are the specific camera facts, sensor,FPS, metering, ISO and the reports from hundreds about shooting, shutter noise touching and everything that goes along with being able to put a new camera through the paces during its initial release?
 
You want disappointment? I had been using (professionally) Leicaflex SL2 mot's in the 1970's, Leica had contacted me about whether I could see the the 'auto exposure feature' as an advantage. "Of course," it had potential in faster moving situations. BUT, when Leica presented the next camera, it was the R3mot? What the ???? Yes, it had AE, but there was NO comparison or 'camera genealogy' to the vastly superior ergonomics of the SL2. Talk about disappointment! YIKES!!!
Well, the R3mot was a 'step-down' but the metering was better - though that was about it. I grew to accept it - but for Leica, well they were basically on a 'flat slope'to no-where. It was the beginning of Leica's frustrating 'steady-state'.
So, the Fuji GFX, I like it, I also like the Hasselblad XD1. But I have to admit, you're design comment comes across as a little weak. Visual appearance aside - yes, it's a 'bit hefty in the middle' but overall, the design 'usability' seems reasonable. Certainly I don't see any cost-cutting in the design, but the yes, the Hasselblad is 'cleaner'. So is the cost.
My old favorite 35mm camera design of old, the SL2 mot was a costly beast to build, and it seems likely that the XD1 is also. As to the most important issue; ultimately, how do they record images? I'm just going to guess that the Fuji will do an excellent job, as good as the XD1.
By the way, I do prefer a 'clean design' and the XD1 reminds me of my 2nd favorite camera from the past, my SWC. Oh, by the way, the Leica M6ttl was my least favorite M model, the M4 and the superior usability of the M5 were better. But I'll be leaning towards the Fuji GFX over the XD1, it won't be about the money as much as the trust I place in the company - Hasselblad is still in 'recovery mode'.
 
I'm a little confused by this camera. Fuji has an established track record of making great Medium Format cameras, but obviously that design team was not involved with this camera. I don't see the point of a removable EVF, seems like needless added cost for the sake of sudo-modularity. The tilt screen is a nice feature though. The short flange distance and focal plane shutter are nice for adapted lenses, but we already have that option out there with the Leica S, which is a fantastic camera that can also use leaf shutter lenses. Which brings me to the point that kills this camera for me me, no leaf shutter lenses. A flash sync of 1/125 just doesn't cut it for strobe work unless there's no ambient light at all.
The lenses will be good, I have no doubts about that, but this camera seems truly aimed at landscape shooters and we already have a similarly priced and specced option from Pentax, though admittedly this is a much smaller body.
If this camera existed in a vacuum, I would be very excited about it but as it is, to my mind there are better options from the other camera manufacturers. Of course, my opinion is based completely off of published specs and photos, not from actually using it.
As a result, I'm much more interested in the Hasselblad XD1 but that's largely because I already have a substantial investment in HC glass which can be adapted with full leaf shutter support. I would either do that or the Leica S, which will also autofocus and use the leaf shutter from my HC lenses.
 
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