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Thanks for that John,

I phoned them up and they had a few at that price!! So I bought one graded at Exc++ (whatever that is!). I'll receive it tomorrow and have a good look.

And to Milos and Vincent, thanks for your help too.

Cheers, Saras
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That's great. I hope you enjoy it muchly. I dealt with Ffordes some time ago before they moved to Scotland, when they sold some items on commission for me and they were very good. I've just had a look at their site and it certainly is comprehensive.
All the best,
John
 
Congratulations Saras! I think you will be delighted with this magnificent camera. By the way, the site that John Strain provided is fantastic. I have never seen so much in the way of quality used Contax and Yashica items. They have two Contax S2 Cameras for sale and one is a 60th aniversary model. They also have under Yashica items an ML yashica Zoom lens with a range from 28-210 I had never heard of this one and am wondering how good it is. I know that the ML lenses are generally very good lenses. That site makes everything look so nice.
 
I just looked on the CdeGroot site and also this splended site and found out more about the 28-210 Yashica. I guess it is not considered one of Yashicas better efforts but it looked so good in the store window.
 
Vincent,

I have used this dealer before, they are very knowledgeable and I was happy with the quality of products they sent. I think it is worth looking at their site every now and then to see what they have!!

Cheers, Saras
 
I am refering to the discussion made by Dirk and others that the flare control of the newer generation bodies are better (discussion in the N-panel on comparing N-lens to MF lens). Bodies like N,G2 and Aria are better in flare control. By comparing my G2 to RX, the black coating inside the camera is certainly darker in G2. Does RXll controls flare better than RX ? We ought to discuss this in this panel.
 
Just what does one look for in a photo that suggests the flare control of the camera body is a problem?? How do you distinguish it from lens flare?
Regards,
Mike.
 
The answer to Mr Blume's first question can be found when you are comparing photos between N 50 1.4 N body and C-Y 50 1.4 RX body,the latter set has more flare at 1.4 to 4( my own observation and others like Andreas Puchelt. The two lenses are optically identical,but the light transmission chamber of the N has a darker coating than RX. It is reasonable to say that RX is not as good as N in flare control.
Light contributing to flare startes from outside the camera or within the lenses and it has to pass the body chamber in order to reach the film. Flare does not start in the body,but a reflective surface inside the body chamber will transmit flare and this will reduce the signal to noise ratio. The photo will become less sharp.
Even when the body chamber is absolute black, flare can be produced from the lenses,some of these flare has specific pattern and it can be called "lens flare",otherwise it can just contribute to the non specific reduction of sharpness.
I am no expert in this field,but this is what I believe.
 
Joseph
Thanks for the reply. Your observations are interesting. It seem however that whatever one can do to reduce lens flare will also cut down on the flare transmitted by reflections within the camera body. Thanks again for the info.
Mike.
 
> Hi Joseph,

I'm not sure whether your conclusion is right. When you compare the N 1.4/50mm with the C/Y 1.4/50mm in terms of flare you shoot with different cameras o.k. but the difference in flare reduction can also be caused only by the lens although both lenses are optically identical ! I have the N1, the Aria and the RX and I can see no difference in inside coatings of all three cameras. The question is what does optically identical really mean. For ex&le I did the comparison with both lenses, the N-Planar on the N1 and the C/Y version with the Aria which is known for it's new design in terms of flare reduction. The result was astonishing to me - the N lens outperforms the "old" 1.4/50mm in terms of flare up to aperture 4 significantly ! The reason is that the N lense is of coarse optically identical but has a different which means darker painting at the lens margin and a different and darker coating inside the shell as all N-lenses have. That's what I've been told by Zeiss-Germany.

You will have similar results by comparing the N 24-85mm with the C/Y 28-85mm. The N-lens is absolutely flare resistant whilst the C/Y lens isn't !

On the other hand there are differences in flare reduction among the C/Y lenses, e.g. 1.4/50mm vs. 1.4/35mm (my posting before). These differences are caused by the different optical design. There is a fundamental correlation between the occurrence of flare and the focal length of a lens - the longer the focal length gets the more flare problems theoretically occur.

To my opinion flare reduction for the N lenses is simply outstanding and unrevaled in the whole camera/lens industry.

Regards

Andreas
 
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