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Something is going on with Zeiss
- Thread starter dirk
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Responding to Mr Lytton Martin, Zeiss has no philosopy for lenses to deliver superior performances at all apertures,in fact, it has consistently made the emphasis on f4 and onwards and less so in low fs. Their lenses in general is doing less well in large aperture compared to Leica. Indeed this is Zeiss philosophy and I also remember Zeiss encouraging people to use f4 and onwards in their camera lens news. Zeiss lenses with good f2 is not common,the one I know is 85 1.2.
Leica is the most expensive 35mm gear.Although it might not be the best according to the standard of many, it excels in certain aspects of photography. It is the best performer in low light black and white photography. The reason I am saying this is because Leica lenses provides the best dimensional feel,better than any other brands.
I doubt the truth of such a thing as too much contrast. Well,I suppose you can have too much contrast when you are dealing with photoprocessing. Good lenses preserve contrast and poor lenses reduce it.
Leica is the most expensive 35mm gear.Although it might not be the best according to the standard of many, it excels in certain aspects of photography. It is the best performer in low light black and white photography. The reason I am saying this is because Leica lenses provides the best dimensional feel,better than any other brands.
I doubt the truth of such a thing as too much contrast. Well,I suppose you can have too much contrast when you are dealing with photoprocessing. Good lenses preserve contrast and poor lenses reduce it.
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djg
Hi all - interesting thread here
. Just got back from Xian, China a couple hours ago, after being stuck in LA for a day and a half because of the blizard out east ... not what I wanted to come back to! Unfortunately my ND is in sleep mode for the time being while my new Canon gets shaken out, but just wanted to say hi
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I think I'll nap for a couple of days now ...
DJ
I think I'll nap for a couple of days now ...
DJ
Hmm, is that really true?
I have something like 60 Contax photos posted here. Which is pretty good considering I mostly shoot with a Hasselblad, Canon digital and Leica M.
I think Irakly, DJ and others have a few also.
Just curious as to how many is enough Dermot?
So, alright already. Here's a Contax photo taken in the mountains of Sedona ... where it rained the entire time we were there : -)
I have something like 60 Contax photos posted here. Which is pretty good considering I mostly shoot with a Hasselblad, Canon digital and Leica M.
I think Irakly, DJ and others have a few also.
Just curious as to how many is enough Dermot?
So, alright already. Here's a Contax photo taken in the mountains of Sedona ... where it rained the entire time we were there : -)
> In order to reconduct this discussion to the initial subject I think the only way to survive for Kyocera/Contax is doing some kind af manual no-frills camera. Take a look at the crude reality. The multi-mode, doing-everything mumbo jumbo AF multi-automatic film SLRs have nearly no way to survive in the digital era. It's a sad thing, and we have to assume it. Take a look at the Leicas R8 and R9s into liquidation in many stores. They are great cameras, the best in thier class, as the Contax in N and C/Y mount, but thy simply do not sell, the market wants digital. But, there's still a niche market for film analog traditional photography. The Leica MP, M7, Hassy 500 series and the discontinued Contax S2 are trying to say something. The very few S2s that appear on Ebay are a fine ex&le of that. And the same said for the little Yashica FX-3 (allows the use of Zeiss lenses -say no more- was figured in a camera review many years ago).
Or even if the Contax brand finally sinks, I expect Voigtlander/Cosina to launch a C/Y mount Bessaflex model (after all it would be no problem at all). The base is there, and the linkages too (we can't forget the FX3 was made by Cosina).
The C/Y mount Zeiss lenses will continue to be sold because of Canon EOS shooters using adapters, so the production fo some of them seems at least guaranteed.
Being the SLR Contax range now bodyless (no Aria, No RXII) I think the way to survive is doing the Aria again or releasing a S2 successor.
Regards, Robert >
Or even if the Contax brand finally sinks, I expect Voigtlander/Cosina to launch a C/Y mount Bessaflex model (after all it would be no problem at all). The base is there, and the linkages too (we can't forget the FX3 was made by Cosina).
The C/Y mount Zeiss lenses will continue to be sold because of Canon EOS shooters using adapters, so the production fo some of them seems at least guaranteed.
Being the SLR Contax range now bodyless (no Aria, No RXII) I think the way to survive is doing the Aria again or releasing a S2 successor.
Regards, Robert >
jsmisc
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I think that a Voigtlander equivalent of the S2 would be an attractive proposition allowing us to use our C/Y lenses in a manual and satisfying way with a new body. It would be likely be very similar to the Yashica FX3 you mention which I believe was in fact designed and made by Cosina and is their staple SLR design which has certainly stood the test of time having been cloned into various makes and types of camera. It is also a very nice and effective camera to use.
In view of what Cosina have already produced in the "retro" line, I don't think it is beyond the bounds of possiblity that they might do it. I would certainly welcome it and I think it is valid point that keeping cameras like that separate from digital in concept and mindset may well be the way forward. At present though it would have to compete with all the Arias and RXs and other Contax and Yashica models out there.
In view of what Cosina have already produced in the "retro" line, I don't think it is beyond the bounds of possiblity that they might do it. I would certainly welcome it and I think it is valid point that keeping cameras like that separate from digital in concept and mindset may well be the way forward. At present though it would have to compete with all the Arias and RXs and other Contax and Yashica models out there.
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djg
Marc has 58, I have 50, pkusaba has 41 - maybe he means photo discussion. For me, a picture's worth a thousand words, so do the math
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