Nikon lens adapter to Sigma SD 14 body...

[dirk]

let's see. Because of this akquisition, things will change. Otherwise they would not have needed to buy it.

So if I were Sigma and I would be interested to push more my own DSLR-business, I would need a "cheap" consumer DSLR and a mid-range prosumer DSLR like a Nikon D300, Canon 50D, Olympus E-30.

The cheap consumer model would need to be below 1000.- Euro longterm (not at the beginning). Especially for Foveon sensor, for the next 2 years this is only possible with crop-size sensors. Just because of the production costs of the Foveon sensor and the requiremenst in the internal processing power.

A bigger and more expensive prosumer mid-range DSLR could use again a bigger mirror cage for bigger sensors. Canon has also different bodies for different customer bases.

IMHO it would not be a good idea to start with fullsize in 2009. Sigma needs market share. And that you only get with affordable models to convince as many users as possible of the Foveon sensor. You need to push the Sigma mount into the market. Once people have the Sigma-mount lenses, they will hesitate more to switch to another brand and most likely are willing to wait for the next best DSLR-model from Sigma.

This is how the whole industry is working. Canon did not get its market share with the Canon EOS 1Ds, they got it with the Canon 300D

Same for Nikon. They succeeded in their turnaround with the Nikon D70/D50, not with the D100 or D1.

So I do think the SD15 will not be a big surprise. IMHO it will be an improved SD14. There is not enough time for development for more. To develop a good DLSR incl. Sensor, you need a lot more time than only 1 year. But at Photokina 2010, we might see or at least hear interesting news.

Best wishes

 

[dirk]

Hi Conurus,

we posted at the same time. Welcome in our Sigma forum!

Regarding the compromise between manual focus and AF in the N-System lenses, I totally agree. I preferred the N70-200 over the N70-300 by the way. Lighter and better image quality.

But I am afraid I am responsible for the fact that we got too much off topic here. But I asked for it, so "mea culpa" - shame on me.

It is nice that you found us. I hope that we have here now many interesting discussions with you, Luis and all the other interested photographers about ideas on the leading edge to get the most out of our preferred equipment.

This is really cool now with all the knowledge "on board". Exciting times for all of us :z04_carrot:

Best wishes

 

[LUIS A GUEVARA]

let's see. Because of this akquisition, things will change. Otherwise they would not have needed to buy it.

So if I were Sigma and I would be interested to push more my own DSLR-business, I would need a "cheap" consumer DSLR and a mid-range prosumer DSLR like a Nikon D300, Canon 50D, Olympus E-30.

The cheap consumer model would need to be below 1000.- Euro longterm (not at the beginning). Especially for Foveon sensor, for the next 2 years this is only possible with crop-size sensors. Just because of the production costs of the Foveon sensor and the requiremenst in the internal processing power.

A bigger and more expensive prosumer mid-range DSLR could use again a bigger mirror cage for bigger sensors. Canon has also different bodies for different customer bases.

IMHO it would not be a good idea to start with fullsize in 2009. Sigma needs market share. And that you only get with affordable models to convince as many users as possible of the Foveon sensor. You need to push the Sigma mount into the market. Once people have the Sigma-mount lenses, they will hesitate more to switch to another brand and most likely are willing to wait for the next best DSLR-model from Sigma.

This is how the whole industry is working. Canon did not get its market share with the Canon EOS 1Ds, they got it with the Canon 300D

Same for Nikon. They succeeded in their turnaround with the Nikon D70/D50, not with the D100 or D1.

So I do think the SD15 will not be a big surprise. IMHO it will be an improved SD14. There is not enough time for development for more. To develop a good DLSR incl. Sensor, you need a lot more time than only 1 year. But at Photokina 2010, we might see or at least hear interesting news.

Best wishes

That is exactly right , and that is what Sigma is doing with their DP1 and DP2 , although their prices are too high.

They will probably continue evolving that line by adding Zoom lenses etc to be in line with the rest of the industry , al the while recuperating their investment in the Foveon acquisition.

The Full frame would have to wait until they have more market share and more money for research and development. The problem with the Foveon sensor is that any increase in Pixel Count is much more costly because it has 3 times the Silicon Depth of any sensor. And , you know , Silicon is the most precious commodity right now , more costly than Gold.

So they are going by little steps and maybe following a trend of increasing Pixel Count by 40% every two models. So by SD16 we should have 20 Mpixels (6.666 x 3)

I wouldnt mind that , but increasing the Sensor size is much more complex .

Luis

 

[foveonfan]

Klaus directed me here and this thread has got me drooling, guys. All the possibilities being expressed here are certainly "food for thought" and so much more intelligent than discussions elsewhere on other sites.

Sincere regards, Jim R.

 

[D~C]

And now that Sigma bought Foveon, nobody can make a "me-too" product! This is coooool!

Unless, of course, Sigma licenses the FOVEON technology to interested parties.

 

[DSG]

Does anyone know where I might find one of these adapters...I have several Nikkor lenses that I would like to test out on my SD10....if the adapter really works....

Thank you ahead of time.

Tony C.

Well you could try the cheap Roxsen Nikon lens to M42 camera adapter, which, despite being inexpensive, even comes with a padded carry case.
Then you just need an M42-SA adapter and your in business. You dont get infinity focus with this adapter combo, just close ups and macros, and for this reason I use my Roxsen adapter exclusively for my two Nikon Micro Nikkors, where this adapter combo gives you a magnification advantage. For Nikon lenses that I want to use at infinity, like my 35mm f1.4 AIS and 105mm f2.5 AIS, I convert them to SA mount.
The other option is a Roxsen Nikon lens to PK adapter, which unlike the former Roxsen adapter, is an optical adapter, ie: It contains an optical element in the adapter to correct the difference in registration distance so you can get infinity focus. I dont like optical adapters as they can reduce image quality and introduce CA problems, but its not that expensive either, so its worth a look.