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thank you sonny

Gee I can't presume to make any comment critical of anybody's camera handling technique from my lounge room. It was just a bit of South Pacific cultural leverty. For the record just because one is a "pro" does't translate into knowing how to handle a cammera well.

You guys are the undisputed experts with this camera on this list not me. I'm here to learn from your experiences, good or bad.

Please, lets get back to finding out where the pit falls are with the C3

regards to all, craig
 
> Yeo Yin Khoon: good luck with your testing, it will be interesting to see how you get on. Head-to-head should produce a decisive answer! Likewise Marc. BTW, I just picked up the 15 Feb issue of British photomag Amateur Photographer (it's a bit slow getting here), which has a review of C2 and C3. Haven't read it yet, but will pass on anything useful. Craig: fancy agreeing with an Aussie! Aussies do have an infuriating habit of winning at cricket and rugby, but apart from that they're not really too bad!
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Marc,

thanks very much that you compared the Leica C3 with the Rollei Prego 90! I had a Rollei Prego 90 and wanted to get something better. Having read you found the Rollei on par with the C3, I decided not to buy a C3 but a Minilux Zoom, which indeed is better than the Rollei by far: the pictures are sharper and more colourful. Of course you only have 35-70 mm, no wide angle, but also no vignetting and no distortion. I'm really happy with the Minilux Zoom, especially with the external flash: You won't have red eyes any more!

So, for those, who think about buying a C3: Think about buying a Minilux Zoom instead. They are quite unexpensive at Ebay at the moment.

Renel
 
> I hope they have fixed the EO5 problem I had with my minilux, but lens was great.
 
I think David meant the EO2 error? I know some of the non-zoom minilux cameras (I think the earlier models) had shutter failure problems that brought up the EO2 error. This required a shutter replacement which is fairly expensive ($200) and difficult becuse the shutter on the Summarit is located between lens elements.
 
I've read the Amateur photographer review David refers to. It gives the C2 and C3 a very high rating (27/30) for the performance and praises the lens resolution. It does criticise some of the features and the need to bring out a C3 and a C2 - when a combination of the features of both would have been a superb camera. The C2 has multi beam focus and prewind for the film, whereas the C3 has the faster lens etc.

I have a PRego 70, but it's really poor quality - no comparison with the Leica. From Marc's comments I think the Prego 90 must be a different beast altogether??
 
>>I have a PRego 70, but it's really poor quality - no
>>comparison with the Leica. From Marc's comments I
>>think the Prego 90 must be a different beast
>>altogether??

YES! I have the Prego 70 as well (small metal cased 35-70 P&S), but the Prego 90 is an older, grey-plastic bodied camera, much larger and fairly ugly. BUT, it has a fantastic Schneider 28-90 lens and a very accurate and extremely fast AF system. Rollei switched to a Rollei lens just before stopping production, but if you can find the Schneider version used, get it. Despite the rather pedestrian looks of the camera, it is a real winner. Also, they tend to be quite inexpensive (I have two, each less than $125USD).

Cheers!
- marc
 
> Graeme's right, couldn't remember, error message appeared on the LCD and wouldn't go away. Eventually got an M3 instead. No probs with tiny mini 3 but one has to wonder at long term reliability of P/S cameras.
 
> To add to Adrian's comments on the C2 and C3 test, AP's Chris Gatcum concludes: "While the results and optical quality offered are fantastic, and the build quality is high, the limitations of these cameras are often frustrating."

BTW, Amateur Photographer is an excellent mag, highly recommended.

The search for an ideal P/S continues, but I think Leica is on the right track with the C3. Some manual conrol would be useful. Big viewfinder. And how about manual zoom control, as on the original Contax TVS?
 
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