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If Nikon could offer me a pro-grade, mirrorless D500 replacement, with even better focusing abilities, at $2K-$2.5K, I wouldn’t exactly rush out and buy one. But I’d be tempted.

I‘m still not thrilled with the idea of an EVF though, and only just over 300 shots on a single battery is a problem.

And the bottom line is would this new camera make my photos any better, or me a better photographer? Probably not as I believe the limiting factor is me, and not the equipment I now use.
 
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And the bottom line is would this new camera make my photos any better, or me a better photographer? Probably not as I believe the limiting factor is me, and not the equipment I now use.

LOL. So I sit sometimes, and compare some of my "street" efforts with the images printed in HCB'S book which lives near my computer monitor and, no... my images don't compare well. And he used, what, an old taped up Leica and usually an uncoated 50mm prime? I just can't look at my images and say, "I shoullda used a Z8." :cry:

It looks like a nice camera though... I think a number of people will be tempted.
 
LOL. So I sit sometimes, and compare some of my "street" efforts with the images printed in HCB'S book which lives near my computer monitor and, no... my images don't compare well. And he used, what, an old taped up Leica and usually an uncoated 50mm prime? I just can't look at my images and say, "I shoullda used a Z8." :cry:

It looks like a nice camera though... I think a number of people will be tempted.
I'm not a street photographer, probably because I've looked at a lot of HCB's work!

I try to stay away from Galen Rowell's and Tom Mangelsen's (and quite a few more) images too. ;)
 
It looks like Nikon's marketing split the difference between the Z7II and Z9 price. The Z8 is $1,500 more than the Z7II and $1,500 less than the Z9. Elegant symmetry, if nothing else :LOL: .

That may leave room for a potential Z7III around $3,000. Who knows...

Interestingly, all of Nikon's APS-C cameras are now sub-$1,000 and their Z5 entry level Full Frame marks the border between DX and FF, at about $1,000.

I still hope Nikon is planning on a DX pro-grade body with a 24-26MP stacked sensor. If they can sell a Z50 at much less than $1,000 they should be able to sell such a camera between $2,000 and $2,500.

Luckily, dreaming costs nothing!
I agree but make it around 30mp at that price.
 
I agree but make it around 30mp at that price.
I am sure it is technically feasible, Canon has the R7 at 32MP and Fuji has a couple more at 40MP.

However, I wonder if that kind of pixel count in a APS-C size would sacrifice too much in term of fps and low light sensitivity.
 
I am sure it is technically feasible, Canon has the R7 at 32MP and Fuji has a couple more at 40MP.

However, I wonder if that kind of pixel count in a APS-C size would sacrifice too much in term of fps and low light sensitivity.
And diffraction limits kick in much earlier with such high pixel densities. OK if all you want to do is shoot wide open - but for the rest of us shooting wildlife (so not just small BIF) with long teles we often need to close down to give our subject the Depth of Focus we need to bring more than just a small part of the head in focus .. and light/motion speed permitting this is what I do.
 
And diffraction limits kick in much earlier with such high pixel densities. OK if all you want to do is shoot wide open - but for the rest of us shooting wildlife (so not just small BIF) with long teles we often need to close down to give our subject the Depth of Focus we need to bring more than just a small part of the head in focus .. and light/motion speed permitting this is what I do.
"Diffraction kicks in" perhaps ideally needs putting in some context.
The laws of optics (which I find to be accurate) are that if MP is increased - there is more image resolution at every aperture - including diffraction limited apertures.

What is going on is that image resolution never reaches 100% of lens resolution (measured without a body)) or sensor resolution (measured without a lens) - and there is always some surplus resolution that can be got out of a lens even at image resolution diffraction limited apertures - because the mathematical diffraction limit is unlikely to be reached.

Although MTF 50 is probably not a good indicator of the human perception of sharpness, it is a good indicator of when diffraction starts to reduce potential image resolution at 50% contrast with a specific MP sensor.

Many lens aberrations that limit resolution at wide aperture reduce on stopping down - partly offsetting the negative effect of diffraction at smaller apertures.

This is why despite there being a diffraction limit at f1.2 other aberrations prevent the f1.2 diffraction being reached - and image resolution increases by f2 - despite the negative effect of diffraction being being greater than at f1.2.

45 MP has close to 33% more pixels on the long dimension of the frame than 24 MP - with the potential of a 33% greater contribution to image resolution from the sensor - though combined with the lens resolution separate contribution to image resolution - image resolution does not go up by the full 33% even where diffraction is not a factor.

Taking 45 MP combined with a high resolving lens as a starting point - it is probable the increase in resolution would start to be squeezed at smaller than f5.6 if there was a DX 45 MP body, the increase can start to be squeezed (depending on the lens) at smaller than f8 on FX, and on 45 MP digital medium format the increase should not start to be squeezed until smaller than f11.

In theory if f16 depth of field is needed on FX format medium format images should be less diffraction limited at f16 - except about f22 with a greater diffraction squeezed aperture is needed to get FX f16 depth of field on digital medium fosqeeze

A practicality is that the amount of potential extra image resolution increase from higher MP sensors gets squeezed - but is still in the plus zone despite the diffraction squeezing effect - definitely down to f22 and potentially f32.

Few would refuse to use an f1.2 lens at f1.2 if they wanted f1.2 limited depth of field - despite image resolution being higher by f2.

A current developing internet myth seems to be shooting at f16 with 45 MP is "the end of the world" - despite image resolution still being distinctly higher than shooting at f16 on a 24 MP camera.

A separate topic is that higher pixel density at higher ISO's does generally reduce image resolution, increases noise and reduces dynamic range. Even so many at least some of the time used 3,200 ISO - before denoise software became readily available
 
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I am sure it is technically feasible, Canon has the R7 at 32MP and Fuji has a couple more at 40MP.

However, I wonder if that kind of pixel count in a APS-C size would sacrifice too much in term of fps and low light sensitivity.
I wonder how many users actually require more than say 10-15fps, I have a EM1X and having tried it at the faster frame rates I settled for 10fps for motorsport, It's better to have around 1500 shots from 8 races at a meeting to sort through than double that,
 
I wonder how many users actually require more than say 10-15fps, I have a EM1X and having tried it at the faster frame rates I settled for 10fps for motorsport, It's better to have around 1500 shots from 8 races at a meeting to sort through than double that,
It depends.
For landscape - normally no.
For wildlife activity where detail like wing position can be important - faster shutter speeds I find helpful.
 
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