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Two More Bodies Will Be Announced in 2023

One apparently will be the Z8, which of course will make a lot of people happy.

The other one? I personally think it will be a compact FX body, like the Sony A7c. And I'd happily own one of those.

Any other thoughts about the second body?
I'd like to see a body as small as the N1 V1 with the Z FF sensor. If this were to happen I'd probably be a buyer.
 
I like the idea of a compact body. The Z5 is pretty compact already, but without a fake prism hump, and moving the viewfinder to the left side of the body, it fit in a smaller case and would let the nose fit comfortably off to the side of the body.

I will add that rather than more bodies, I'd like to see Nikon build up the Z lens catalog a bit:
  • Affordable super telephotos
  • Affordable super tele zoom. (ex. 80-400, ,70-300, 200-600)
 
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I will add that rather than more bodies, I'd like to see Nikon build up the Z lens catalog a bit:
  • Affordable super telephotos
  • Affordable super tele zoom. (ex. 80-400, ,70-300, 200-600)
I sure wouldn't mind a smaller 85mm or even a 75mm and f/2.8 would be ok with me. The S line 85 f/1.8 is a great lens, but just a touch large really to try to carry in a light jacket pocket. A smaller 75 or 85 would match nicely with the 28 and 40 primes currently available. (doubtful I think, but I can always wish...)
 
I sure wouldn't mind a smaller 85mm or even a 75mm and f/2.8 would be ok with me. The S line 85 f/1.8 is a great lens, but just a touch large really to try to carry in a light jacket pocket. A smaller 75 or 85 would match nicely with the 28 and 40 primes currently available. (doubtful I think, but I can always wish...)
Yes. Let's face it: f/2.8 is a wide enough aperture for almost anything, especially in a telephoto.
 
I sure wouldn't mind a smaller 85mm or even a 75mm and f/2.8 would be ok with me. The S line 85 f/1.8 is a great lens, but just a touch large really to try to carry in a light jacket pocket. A smaller 75 or 85 would match nicely with the 28 and 40 primes currently available. (doubtful I think, but I can always wish...)

The problem is the size of the Z-mount. It is a lot bigger/wider than i.e. the L-Mount. Therefore even the F1.8 line (85/50/35 etc.) are way bigger than I would like to have it. This is the major reason why I switched for fullframe to L-Mount in combination with the Sigma i-series lenses.

I still have some Z-lenses and the Nikon Zfc and love it (same as my Z6 at that time), but the size of the Z-lens mount will not become smaller - unfortunately.
 
Yes. I get that the diameter of the Z mount is fairly wide and I'm OK with that (just...), it's the length that makes it difficult to "pocket" -- at least for me.
The small size of the Z 40 f/2 sort of gives me hope that a Z 75 f/2.8 prime might theoretically be a bit shorter in length.

Meanwhile, I see (now) what you mean about the L mount. Sigma's 90mm f/2.8 is definitely the size I'm (futilely) wishing for on the Z system.
 
Yes. I get that the diameter of the Z mount is fairly wide and I'm OK with that (just...), it's the length that makes it difficult to "pocket" -- at least for me.
The small size of the Z 40 f/2 sort of gives me hope that a Z 75 f/2.8 prime might theoretically be a bit shorter in length.

Meanwhile, I see (now) what you mean about the L mount. Sigma's 90mm f/2.8 is definitely the size I'm (futilely) wishing for on the Z system.
I have never owned any camera or lens with an L-mount, however I see that the difference is +3.4mm in diameter and -4mm in flange depth in the Z-mount vs L-mount. I would not have thought that such differences translated into a significant lens size difference. Live and learn, I guess :)
 
The problem is the size of the Z-mount. It is a lot bigger/wider than i.e. the L-Mount.
One persons problem can be another persons gain.
To some extent you take products as they are - and make your decision.

ML is changing the world of optics - just as the SLR did in the 1960's.

Many ML lenses have a "straight" barrel along their length - to provide space for more than one AF motor to help achieve higher optical quality over a range of focus distances - though not all ML lenses have more than 1 AF motor.

Shorter lens flange to sensor distance - that all ML bodies have - seems to lead to higher optical quality than was possible when space was needed for DSLR mirrors.

Wider lens flanges provide more optical design options - and probably lead to higher optical quality in a few though not all lens designs.

All ML systems have an ability to transmit much more electronic information than was done with DSLR systems - even EOS mount.
This can be important for higher optical quality as it enables "electronic control" of distortion that is difficult to control optically, leaving the lens designers free to reduce other optical issues.
 
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